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Poster: stratocaster Date: Nov 8, 2005 10:24pm
Forum: etree Subject: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

The best segues and/ or transitions are those that make you rewind the tape and check it out repeatedly...I'll come back to this later, but would love suggestions for kick ass Dead segues and transitions...cause isn't this what set the GD apart?

Estimated>St. Stephen -- 06-09-1977 awesome segue...they pull it off beautifully (not tried again although both the estmated jam and the stephen intro are in F# minor)

Other One> Me and My Uncle -- 08-06-1971, tried a few times in 1971...one moment you're in Other One, the next Me and My Uncle...

Scarlet into Fire --05-08-1977, 10-10-1980, 03-22-1990, 03-31-1988 these a few that the band coalesces into Fire and Garcia is on the money with his wah intro and Lesh is right on with his bass line...chill inducing...no noodling or energy lapses...

Cassidy>UJB>Cassidy -- 05-27-1993-pulled off once...they pull cassidy far out to modulate into G...and they go back into Cassidy reprise beautifully...

Dark Star>El Paso -- 08-27-1972 from Heaven to Hell to a sojourn into the Wild West...amazingly smooth transition

Mojo>Other One--10-21-1978

Space>Other One>Wharf Rat--02-05-1978

these are but a few...I'll shake off some cobwebs to contribute more...




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Poster: adroot02 Date: Nov 8, 2005 8:03am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Playin>Terrapin from 12-31-85 is the first thing that comes to mind. some sick twisting happens in this transition!

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Poster: dwill1188 Date: Nov 8, 2005 11:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Dark Star > Cumberland Blues
9/27/72
Dark Star lasts about 30 minutes, followed by a really good Cumberland
the China Cat > Rider is also really good on the same night

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Nov 8, 2005 12:56pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Talk about blink and miss it, I'm really late for this topic. Great input here...hate to completely miss out so...

12-04-71 Me&My Uncle>Other One>Mexical Blues>Other One>Wharf Rat
05-07-72 Dark Star>Drums>Dark Star>Other One>Sing Me Back Home

More on the way...

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Nov 8, 2005 2:01pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Have to mention 'Beautiful Jam' segue show,
6-24-70 Dark Star~Beautiful Jam> Sugar Magnolia
the flawless turn on
04-29-71's GDTRFB> Cold Rain & Snow
nice transition on
05-25-72's Wharf Rat> Dark Star
unique one on
07-19-74's He's Gone> US Blues
or on
09-30-76's Crazy Fingers> It's All Over Now

the list goes on and on

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Poster: Street Pig Date: Nov 8, 2005 4:32am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

4.29.71 II >Jam out of Aligator>Cold Rain & Snow...............purty stuff here

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Poster: US Blues Date: Nov 8, 2005 6:01am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Nice topic, stratocaster!

12.1.73, Boston: Playin>UJB>Playin Jerry toys with the UJB intro like a cat playing with a mouse.
5.6.78 UVM: Terrapin>Playin Like butta!
9.20.74 Paris: (Truckin>)Space>Eyes Long drippy mellow jazz intro to Eyes.
12.6.89 Oakland: Scarlet>Sugar Mags>Ship of Fools>Terrapin>Turtle Melt Mags comes in when you think it will turn into Fire. Then they stop Mags on a dime and Jerry goes right into Ship with SSDD saved for later. The "turtle melt" after Terrapin is an insane midi-fest that touches a Dark Star-like moment, then drums.
11.14.72 Oklahoma!: He's Gone>Truckin Serious Other One teases and Jerry fakes out Phil at least twice before they drop into Truckin. The Other One that follows is a must hear.

That's a few, as we all scribble each others suggestions furiously on any handy scrap of paper...

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Poster: JodyC Date: Nov 8, 2005 11:12pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Hey US Blues- Not to be too big a wise ass but its way easier to use your printer. I'm almost embarrassed at how many pages of these dialogues and opinions I have at home. That Stratocaster is like a Dead savant. Archive rocks! (Sorry Diana, I know how much you love the over the top Dead-ication this site has). You have to wonder where the Jack Johnson fans are with his show holding a staedy 3rd most hit show on this site-pretty impressive!

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Poster: US Blues Date: Nov 8, 2005 11:33pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

JodyC- just trying to be ecologically minded :-)

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Poster: JodyC Date: Nov 8, 2005 11:47pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

I respect that-just givin ya a hard time. The volume of info is overwhelming sometimes and it would seem like you'd be writing for days.It would be cool if you could save them on your hard drive like an attachment or document.Have a good day!

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Poster: smofed Date: Sep 18, 2009 10:09pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

One of my absolute favorites:

1985-11-02
Estimated->UJB->China Doll->Drumz->Space->Morning Dew

Very fluid throughout. One of the coolest I have ever heard from the Dead. And a totally under-rated show to boot.

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Nov 9, 2005 10:42am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions


10-02-80 Comes A Time > Lost Sailor
At first you have an empty cup that only love can fill and then, before you know it, you're on that ship lookin' for that dog star. It's a good morphing type of segue, the ones I prefer. Don't we all?

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Poster: mickey622 Date: Nov 9, 2005 9:29pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Sorry if these were mentioned already but...

02/15/69 - Electric Factory? - Mountains of the Moon > Dark Star. Jerry playing acoustic then switching to electric and just flowing into DS. (I need a Time machine)
They did this a few times in 69 and it's always nice.

06/23/74 - Jai-Alai Fronton - Miami, FL
The little Jam (after Seastones and tuning) that goes into Ship of Fools. Just sublime. One of those moments of sheer brilliance by the boys.

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Poster: npc160 Date: Nov 10, 2005 7:30am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

i don't think this one was mentioned but...
11-29-80 shakedown > franklin's

pretty cool

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Poster: doodle Date: Nov 10, 2005 11:55am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Ok, based on the original criteria of this post, here's one that probably EVERYONE overlooked; the Not Fade > Going Down the Road from the Skull n' Roses (Skullfuck, if you will)album. It's an unbelievable transition that is completely seamless. Listen to the chord progression Bob does to get you there. Why they didn't do it this way (even when they paired these two) in the future is beyond me. It is incredibly well done (even for an album :) )

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Nov 10, 2005 6:09pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

the china cat> i know you rider from the 100 year hall album is smooth as silk

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Poster: The Bopper Date: Apr 5, 2007 6:36pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

9/5/82 -> Playin>Shakedown

10/26/85 -> Throwin Stones>GDTRFB http://www.archive.org/details/gd85-10-26.sbd-set2.digib.17275.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Fishead Date: Nov 8, 2005 10:57pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

also

11-8-69 dp16 disc 2 and beginning of disc 3 is as perfect as you can get !!!

darkstar>other one>darkstar>uncle john jam>darkstar>
st stephen>the eleven>
caution>main ten>caution

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Nov 8, 2005 3:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Oh, here's a good one:

9/22/91: CC Rider > Train To Cry

Perfect Segue!!!

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jan 19, 2007 4:19pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions...bump!

yes, it's my thread, so call me an asshole for bumping it, but there are so many excellent responses in this thread it's worth it...check it out

01-15-1979--miracle>shakedown...

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Poster: *Merlin* Date: Nov 8, 2005 6:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Great thread. I agree with many of these so I'll put a few that haven't been mentioned.

10/21/71 Dark Star>Sittin On Top of the World>Dark Star. Kinda like the Other One>Uncle, blink and you could miss it. This is the only time they went back into DS from Sittin. Check fall '71 for interesting Other One and Dark Star sandwiches and segues.

2/26/77 Playin>Wheel>Playin. Thick and soupy. You can hear Phil tease the Dark Star intro in there at least once.

3/30/90 China Doll>Uncle John's>Terrapin. Not sure if this one's on the archive anymore but the whole pre-drums flows like water, esp UJB in to Terrapin. One of those sets where you can hear the tune 2 songs before they go into it.

9/19/90 Uncle John's>Let It Grow in the second set. Just perfect.

8/16/91 Scarlet>Victim>Fire. Bruce twists the Scarlet outro into Vic and they all weave it together.

Keep this thread going, I look forward to checking some of these out.

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Poster: Alex, Geddy, Neil, Jerry, Bobby, Phil, Brent, Mickey, Billy Date: Oct 8, 2007 8:42pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

10-10-82 II

Playing In The Band > Crazy Fingers > Lost Sailor > Saint Of Circumstance > Touch Of Grey

(i don't think they stop playing the entire 2nd set, really, other than drums/space)

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Nov 8, 2005 2:59am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

9/27/72: Dark Star > Cumberland (My Favorite)
4/2/73: Space > Bobby McGee
11/21/73: Playin > El Paso
12/2/73: Wharf Rat > 1/2 Step
6/16/74: Eyes > Big River
12/19/78: NFA > Stella Blue
1/15/79: Miracle > Shakedown
12/26/79: Estimated > He's Gone

There's so much more, my mind is just blanking out

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Poster: 3roin stones Date: Nov 8, 2005 3:16am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Perhaps one of the best examples of segue-transition imo are the St.Stephen>The Eleven played between '68 and '70 and perhaps one other time. One From the Vault is the best I've heard but am sure there are others in the archive.There was some furious jammin goin on with Garcias fingers flyin-too bad he seemed to lose that ability as the years wore on.

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Poster: nas Date: Nov 8, 2005 8:26am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

4-3-82 scarlet-fire

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Poster: doodle Date: Nov 8, 2005 8:53am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Oh man, hats off to everyone here. Some great mentions. I had thought of many, but hadn't thought of MANY more. Here's one that's not listed yet, Playin > Crazy Fingers from Madsin Square on 9.21.82. That OPENS the show! A very hot first set follows.Also some had mentioned the Playin > El Paso from 11.21.73. I just happened to be listening to that when I read that post, and I would venture to say to take that one further; Playin > El Paso >Playin >Wharf Rat (some Dark Star sounds in there) > Playin > Morning Dew. The whole show is tremendous. Keep em comin'

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Nov 8, 2005 10:23am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

I've always been partial towards the 12/31/76 Good Lovin'>Samson & Delilah transition.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Nov 8, 2005 1:27pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

As previously noted, the 8-1-82 Playin >>Aiko is one of my favorites as well.
Some others:
8-1-73, another great Dark Star >> El Paso Jam
9-11-73, Dark Star >> Morning Dew, not an unusual pairing of songs for 71-73, but Phil does a great segue bass solo that also incorporates the Other One thunder intro.
11-17-73, Playin >> Uncle John's >> Dew >> Ujb reprise >. Playin (reprise)
9-1-79: Scarlet >> Fire, of course there are hundreds of great jams out there, this one however is quite unique, before going into fire the boys do a real nice in between jam that I just love.
9-2-79: Terrapin >> Let It Grow, very sweet
10-27-79: Dancin >> Franklin's Tower another effortless transition.
5-1-80:Feel Like A Stranger >> Terrapin, this is the only Stranger that I have heard that doesnt end on it's usual note, instead they transition from the jam straight into Terrapin.
5-8-80: Prophet >> Eyes, A flawless segue of a jam that they did a thousand times, but for me this is one of the best.
7-14-81: Truckin >> Eyes, Jerry takes a 45 second solo while the rest of the boys just sit back, it's a great listen.
10-17-81: Truckin >> Bird Song, The transition is effortless.
2-20-82, Franklin's >> Samson to open second set
Of course i could go on and on ( i already may have listed too many), biut these are some of my absolute favorites.

Frank

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Nov 18, 2005 10:23pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Bringing this post alive for one transition that is fabulous- 9/24/72 Dark Star-Drums-Dark Star-China-Rider. This Dark Star, totally unheralded, is one of the best I have ever heard. My God I do not know why there are only 7 comments on this show overall. The rest of the show smokes, and the sound is awesome. There are times in the Dark Star where Phil registers HUGE earthquakes- And Phil shines throughout the show- as some say, and I am one of them, as goes Phil, so goes the Dead.

And this show was only days before that Veneta show that all rever. Take a listen- you cannot be disappointed

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Poster: Fishead Date: Nov 8, 2005 4:48am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

3-30-88 ujb >playin >ujb

6-26-88 playin >ujb >playin

9-12-91 playin >terrapin >playin

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Poster: darkstar92772 Date: Nov 8, 2005 10:19am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

One of my personal faves has to be 11-17-73 Playin'>UJB>Dew>UJB>Playin'. It is one of those moments that make you feel good to be alive

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Poster: jcroot Date: Nov 8, 2005 10:23am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

exactly what I was going to say

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Nov 10, 2005 2:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

I am surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, but

Mind Left Body Jam > US Blues

6/28/74. What a jam into US Blues!!!!!

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Poster: Craig T Date: Nov 8, 2005 3:53am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Sugar>Scarlet 7/16/90 has been on my brain lately. Maybe not the "best", but pretty damn slick.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 8, 2005 3:58am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

I've got Sugar>Scarlet on my mind, too, but from Alpine Valley 7-18-89...it happens pretty quickly out of the Sugar Jam (don't blink!)but it is so damn seamless that before you know what hit you you're right into the kick ass chords of Scarlet...the transition from there into WomenRSmarter aint bad, either!

Also check out the Scarlet into Fire transition from 9-11-82

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Nov 8, 2005 2:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Also have to mention:
1-22-78: Other One >> Close Encounters Jam >. St Stephen, This is an epic jam with great segues between each song, The final transition is very powerful. As far as I know this is the only time that St Stephen was played without the intro, Jerry goes straight into the meat of the song....Awesome

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Poster: alexj Date: Nov 8, 2005 2:45pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

so many, so many
5/26/72 truckin'->other one->morning dew->other one->sing me back home...
9/27/72 (dp 11) dark star -> cumberland blues is amazing,
9/28/72 the 2nd set he's gone -> phil/drums->the other one->me & bobby mcgee ->the other one->wharfrat...
2/9/73, how about the first 'eyes' ever, the way it rolls so perfectly out of 'truckin,' as if they'd been playin' it for years...
6/16/74 the china cat->rider (best ever, seriously?),
eyes->big river (so good it's impossible to describe)
(and jsut cause i'mlistening to it now) 6/23/74 dark star-> spanish jam->u.s. blues...so many, many, many more.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 8, 2005 6:54pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

Shame on me for forgetting this one!!!

10-12-84, Augusta, Maine:

UJB>(Incredible)Space>Playin Reprise (w/about a 5 minute space/playin' tease before hitting it)>UJB Reprise, and if that isn't enough, a flawless, dramatic segue into one of THE BEST MORNING DEW's you'll ever hear!

TransitionMagicians... ;-)

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Poster: The Bopper Date: Nov 8, 2005 5:30am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

5/7/77 - Half Step->Big River (The transition is some of the funkiest GD ever)

8/1/82 - Playin->Aiko (what a great combo)

8/7/82 - Music Never Stopped->Sugaree->Music Never Stopped. And the China>Rider is another great transition from this show and my favorite of all time.

7/13/84 Scarlet->Touch - This is the big daddy of them all and the first transition I remember rewinding several times because it's so cool when Jerry starts strumming the Touch chords way up on the guitar neck. It's also cool because you know everyone was expecting to hear Fire, even though they had already done this combo at least once before. To make it even better, I think this was the only time they went back into Fire after Touch.

Edit: I just checked deadlists and they did do another Jerry triple threat of Scarlet>Touch>fire on 7/3/84. I listened to the Scarlet>Touch transition and I'm happy to say that 7/13 still takes the cake. There is also a scarlet>touch from 6/12/84, but that show isn't on the LAMA yet :-(




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Poster: jhender501 Date: Nov 8, 2005 4:22am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

That 8-1-82 Playin'->Iko is one of my favorites..still amazes me how they pulled that one off.


Jim

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Poster: DJ Get Down Date: Nov 9, 2005 5:26pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

5-7-77 after Half-step they played Jed. Are you

mistaking the date or the song?

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Poster: The Bopper Date: Nov 10, 2005 12:04am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

It's 1/2 step>Big River on 5/7/77. It's just mislabeled on the track listing - but also kind of cool because there shouldn't be a gap to spoil that transition.

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Poster: Phynie Date: Nov 8, 2005 2:53am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

LOVE the dark star into el paso from veneta!
I really dig the pre-drumz jam out of foolish heart from 6-8-90. Don't know if that exactly counts, but it is pretty cool. What is the date of that cassidy -> UJB ->cassidy? I would like to check that out.

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Poster: bonk Date: Nov 8, 2005 5:14am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

I agree with ya!!!!I was just thinking about that 6-8-90 foolish!!!!!!

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Poster: Fishead Date: Nov 8, 2005 4:53am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

05-27-93 Cal Expo Amphitheatre, Sacramento, Ca. (Thu)

1: Shakedown, Same Thing, Dire Wolf, BIODTL, High Time, Masterpiece, Cumberland, Promised

2: Picasso Moon> Fire> Wave To The Wind,
Cassidy> Uncle John> Cassidy> Drumz> Other One> Wharf Rat> Sugar Magnolia E: Gloria

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Dec 26, 2005 3:32am
Forum: etree Subject: Fabulous segue 8-6-74

I cannot help but continue to bring up this thread- there are so many incredible segues that we could not exhaust them this century!

Anyway, I was listening to 8-6-74 Roosevelt Stadium (I think this is a Dick's Picks) and the transition from an incredibly jazzy Playin in the Band to Scarlet Begonias is other worldy- Billy just continues to lay down the intricate jazz beat he is playing in the playin jam and extends it into the Scarlet, like both songs were one! Billy's playing in this show, as well as Phil's, is extraordinary.

I wish I knew what happened to this jazzy style of drumming that Billy had in 74- I guess it did not mesh with Mickey when he came back- but it is fascinating, and Phil runs right along with it- 74 is perhaps the finest year for the rhythm section.

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Poster: bonk Date: Nov 8, 2005 5:16am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Grateful Dead--best segues and transitions

HELP>SLIP>FIRE from the GAAAAADEN 9-20-91!!!!!